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Artmuzz KVRist - profile -
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Anyone remember the Casio VZ1 from the 1980's?
It was a very unique sounding synth and apparently you could created
sounds on it that you could not create on any other synth. It used
iPD (interactive Phase Distortion)and was capable of brilliant
sounds.
It would be great if there was an emulation of this
synth for the PC/Mac or a vsti as this was a very underrated
synthesizer. Anyone know of any vsti's that come close?
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Igor
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Try http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/1036.html I
think it's supposed to be a CZ emulation of sorts.
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Igor
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Oh, man...sorry, I just realized that you were
inquiring about the VZ and not the CZ
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Artmuzz wrote: |
Anyone remember the Casio VZ1 from the
1980's? | Yeah, I had a VZ1. Its sounds
included brassy, bell-like, feedback guitar and strange ethereal
glass-like textures. I have to say that I preferred my old
CZ230-S, though. The CZ included resonant waveforms which IMO gave
its sounds more variety.
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sinkmusic KVRAF - profile -
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nice synth the casio VZ-1 there are many
phaze distortion synth on kvr... but i don't know if there are
close to the casion you're looking for ... ?! |
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Summa KVRist - profile -
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You probably can get close to the sound with a
FM synth that supports Ringmod, like e.g. Sytrus or Digital.
---- A formant is
a preferred resonating frequency of any acoustical
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Summa wrote: |
You probably can get close to the sound with a
FM synth that supports Ringmod, like e.g. Sytrus or
Digital. | Yep CoFx - Digital would
IMHO probably be the closest you'll get to that sound at the
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Summa KVRist - profile -
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Shouldn't google and answer old postings,
without checking the date...
---- A formant is
a preferred resonating frequency of any acoustical
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Summa wrote: |
Shouldn't google and answer old postings,
without checking the date...  | He could aleady be dead
or something.  |
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Mandala
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Hi - I have both the VZ-10M and the smaller
VZ-8M. (The VZ-8M has special modes for Midi Guitars and Casio DH
100 Midi Horns. Also the screen on the VZ-8M doesn't get dim with
age like the screen of the VZ-10M). The VZ has a lot more variety
than the CZ in the way the oscillators could modulate each other.
Probably 50 or more phase, ring and mix combinations with each of
the 8 oscillators having a selection of 8 wave forms to choose from.
I can't quite figure out the envelope programming so I just
tweak other people's sounds. Randomizing doesn't work very well
because then the enevlopes commonly don't stop sounding (stuck note
effects).
If we had a VZ emulation maybe it would be easier
to tell what was going on in a patch. |
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Summa KVRist - profile -
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Do you have my VZ tutorial? It's in its early
stage but explains how to convert FM Sounds to the VZ and how to
fade between ringmod and AM, what hopefully makes understanding the
system behind the synth a little easier... When it comes to
the stuck notes, make sure the end level is 0 for every END Stage of
every Mx Envelope that isn't set to Phase.
---- A formant is
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Mandala Music
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I can't quite figure out the envelope
programming so I just tweak other people's sounds.
| If I remember correctly, Casio
used some ridiculous upside-down system for their envelopes - i.e. a
fast Attack was 100 rather than 0, etc. I always struggled with this
when I had the FZ-1. |
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Summa KVRist - profile -
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It's not ridiculous, it's simply level/rate
instead of level/time based. So it's not an absulute time distance
you enter but a gradient, since the CZ-1 was my first own synth, I'm
used to that system...
---- A formant is
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Mandala Music
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I can't quite figure out the envelope
programming so I just tweak other people's sounds. Randomizing
doesn't work very well because then the enevlopes commonly
don't stop sounding (stuck note effects).
If we had a
VZ emulation maybe it would be easier to tell what was going
on in a patch. | hi! as summa said
you have to set end and sustain points for the envelopes ( do that
with the buttons: intern. sustain & card end ) ... also swapping
to "diplay mode" can help understanding the env´s a lot. But
you are randomizing patches? so you are using an editor? for
people who wants the casio vz sound, my simple advice would be to
buy one. they are pretty cheap. maybe because nobody likes to
programm them? dunno know if there is a vsti that can do
veezee
---- apples &
oranges -- peace :] |
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